Page 3147 - Week 11 - Wednesday, 12 September 1990
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Jindalee Nursing Home
MR BERRY: My question, again, is directed to the Treasurer. Will the Treasurer acknowledge that $1.4m in redundancy payments in the Jindalee context would result in a large number of redundancies - in terms of from 1 to 60?
MR KAINE: My answer is the same as the answer to the previous question, Mr Speaker. Until people volunteer for voluntary retirement, you cannot really say what the expected outcome will be. Again, it is a provision in the expectation that, once the nationwide standards are put into effect in Jindalee, some staff will seek to retire voluntarily under a redundancy scheme. As I said before, if there is any expectation of that occurring, you have to make some kind of provision; the money has to be there so that people can take advantage of that.
I do not know what number of people it translates into; nor do I know at this stage how many people might hope or expect to take advantage of the redundancy provisions. So it is highly speculative and highly hypothetical, and I do not think that I add to the debate by speculating about it.
MR BERRY: I ask a supplementary question. If the Chief Minister cannot provide the answer to that question, how does he then calculate that there will be $950,000 saved this year and $2.5m in a full year at Jindalee Nursing Home?
MR KAINE: I have already answered that question, Mr Speaker. The savings in Jindalee do not necessarily transfer into people and people's salaries. There are many other ways in an operation like that in which savings can be achieved. Some part of the savings may well translate into people seeking to retire, which will lead to savings in future years but will lead to an outlay in terms of redundancy payments this year. Mr Berry, I do not have before me the detailed working sheets that lead to that figure; nor did you have them when you were talking about your savings in hospitals last year.
Mr Berry: Do not blame me for your mistakes.
MR KAINE: I am blaming you for your mistakes.
Mr Speaker, I ask that any further questions be placed on the notice paper.
Costs of Ministers : Electoral System - Referendum
MR KAINE: Mr Speaker, I would like to table the answers to two questions asked recently by Mr Stevenson - one on 15 August that had to do with the costs of maintaining the
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