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effect here. The application of those nationwide standards will result in less cost to the taxpayer to provide the service.

Mr Berry: Sixty jobs.

MR KAINE: You can translate it into 60 jobs if you like. If that turns you on, feel free. But there are ways of reducing costs in health facilities other than getting rid of staff. I know you would not understand that, Mr Berry.

Mr Berry: Well, where does the $1.4m in redundancy payments go?

MR SPEAKER: Order, Mr Berry!

MR KAINE: You could not even address the $7m overrun in the hospitals when you were running them; so I know you have difficulty with facing up to the real issues. I am quite prepared to debate this question with Mr Berry in a rather hypothetical way, but my real answer to Mr Berry is the same as the one I gave to Mrs Grassby before. If he really is looking for the details of how a health matter is going to be put into effect, he should ask the Health Minister. But he does not choose to do that. He thinks he will be a smart alec by addressing the question to me. I am answering his question, and I am saying that it does not necessarily transfer into jobs lost.

Mr Berry: Well, sit down and we will ask the Health Minister - $1.4m in redundancy payments.

MR KAINE: I am not going to respond to your directive, Mr Berry. If Mr Speaker wants me to sit down, I will sit down, but not because you direct me to.

MR SPEAKER: Order, Mr Berry, please!

Mr Berry: $1.4m in redundancy payments.

MR SPEAKER: Mr Berry, you are not entitled to speak across the floor.

MR KAINE: Let him continue to rave on, Mr Speaker. As I said before, he clearly does not want the answer to the question; he just wants to push his own point of view.

Gaming and Liquor Authority

MR CONNOLLY: Mr Speaker, my question also is directed to the Treasurer. Mr Kaine, given your regularly expressed commitment to a more efficient and productive Public Service and the Priorities Review Board's finding that the Gaming and Liquor Authority has demonstrated since 1981 significant improvements in turnover with a reduction in staff from some 65 to 27 - a dramatic productivity


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