Page 2926 - Week 13 - Thursday, 23 November 1989

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Mr Kaine: It is a tax that they do not want levied, but they are going to give it to you anyway. That is the way it was put by Mr - - -

MR SPEAKER: Order, Mr Kaine!

MR BERRY: You could ask a supplementary question. I think that the answer to the question, Mr Speaker, is that it is not a tax; it is a donation. Therefore it will not be a tax imposed by the Government. I think that has been pretty obvious in all the publicity that has gone on with the opposition's refusal to allow the Government to tax this industry in the ACT properly and to use those funds for appropriate purposes in the ACT. The people of the ACT are aware that, if the funds that would have flowed to the Government continue to be prevented from entering our coffers, pressure will go onto services. The members opposite will have to take the responsibility for that. But going back to the $500,000 - - -

Mr Kaine: On a point of order, Mr Speaker; we drew attention to standing orders before. We are not in the business of debating the question. The Minister is supposed to answer the question. Again I will be specific. How does the Minister propose to account for the money?

Ms Follett: It's not his money; he's not getting it.

Mrs Grassby: It's not his money; he's not getting it. It's going to other organisations.

MR SPEAKER: Order!

Mr Kaine: I repeat, Mr Speaker, the proposition that was put was that, since they were not going to be levied the tax, they want to pay it anyway, and it will be paid to the Government, I presume. My question is: how does the Government - and he is the Minister responsible - propose to account for it and how will he determine who the beneficiaries of this money are going to be?

MR SPEAKER: Order, Mr Kaine! I believe the question has been answered.

Mr Kaine: It has not been answered, I submit, Mr Speaker.

MR BERRY: I would not mind responding to it. Mr Speaker, I was going to have a lash at the question that was just put to me.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you, Minister Berry. I just supported you on that.

Mr Kaine: This is a red-letter day, Mr Speaker. He is actually going to have a lash at the question.

MR SPEAKER: Minister Berry, please proceed.


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