Page 2859 - Week 13 - Wednesday, 22 November 1989

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MR MOORE (4.10): Taking money away from women's enterprise services is hardly about administration. We are talking about assistance aimed at helping women to obtain private finance and to undertake business enterprises; in other words, encouraging them by providing opportunities so that they can get started and help themselves. So the sort of thing you are talking about is absolute nonsense. If you are talking about reducing the sum by $200,000 or $250,000 - I am not quite sure whether you are moving your amendments or not, but I will go with the $200,000 - why did you not make suggestions about how it should be spent, instead of trying to reduce it?

I cannot remember this matter coming up at all in the Estimates Committee, and I do not remember it being pursued in that committee, which was the appropriate forum for doing so. We are finally seeing a very clear indication of where the Liberals actually stand on women. It was all right last night to mouth platitudes about your attitude to women and about degrading women, but when it comes to ensuring that there is not enough money to assist them to be seen as equal, to be given a chance to be equal, to be recognised as equal, that is when we are starting to see the real attitudes coming out.

As for my good friend here, Mr Duby, saying what he did, it just horrifies me that I have got such a misguided friend, and I will try to straighten him out. What we have here is a situation where we are really now seeing the Liberals for what they are in their attitude towards women. Be sensible, withdraw your amendment.

MR STEFANIAK (4.12): Not because of what my good friend the NIMBY has said, but because of the confusion in the chamber, I do intend withdrawing my amendment. Mr Humphries has got another amendment which clarifies it to make it $200,000. I am mindful, of course, of the lack of break-up of the $100,000 for the discrimination, and I think effectively that really cannot be touched. I reiterate what I have said in relation to the other two points. I seek leave to withdraw my amendment.

Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

MR HUMPHRIES (4.13): I move:

That the proposed expenditure under division 30.1.01 be reduced by $200,000.

Amendment negatived.

MR COLLAERY (4.13): Mr Speaker, as a matter of procedure, we have done arts and heritage and we have passed into ACT corporate management. It is not clear on this side of the house when we go from one to the other. I take it that, when the Chief Minister rose to speak, she was taking her first opportunity to address the item of arts and heritage.


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