Page 2756 - Week 13 - Tuesday, 21 November 1989
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MR BERRY: Mr Speaker, with the greatest respect, I think this is an important part of the debate. The respective positions of the players in this debate need to be exposed in relation to their forthrightness in terms of their approach to the budget strategy which was adopted by the Government. It was clear from the outset that an important part of the Government's budget strategy was this particular Bill, and it was clear from the outset that the Government's budget depended on achieving these taxes. Why is it that we are allowed to go some four months down the track with barely a whimper from the saboteurs - - -
Mr Kaine: You have got to be joking. We have been criticising your budget since day one. Don't you listen?
MR BERRY: Barely a whimper.
Mr Kaine: This is ridiculous. Just speak the truth.
MR BERRY: Mr Speaker, I refer to the initial statement. Of course, this was mentioned in this document in July 1989. It set out clearly the taxes which the Government would achieve from this initiative. Now, of course, the saboteurs would seek to create another frenzy on emotive terms - loot, lust and all those sorts of things - all terms which seem to worry our conservative brothers and sisters opposite.
Mr Kaine: Not as much as they worry you, obviously.
Mr Humphries: We are not the losers; you are the loser.
MR BERRY: Well, you seem quite content with driving it underground and creating - - -
Mr Kaine: On a point of order, Mr Speaker; this debate, if I can remind the Minister, has got nothing to do with banning this material; it has to do with a budgetary provision to tax it. Nobody has talked about driving it underground. Presumably, the Minister is a bit worried.
Mr Duby: On a point of order, Mr Speaker; the thrust of Dr Kinloch's speech was about pornographic material.
MR SPEAKER: Order! Mr Duby, please resume your seat. I can only take one point of order at a time. Read your standing orders. Mr Kaine, please get to your point.
Mr Kaine: I would suggest, Mr Speaker, that if the Minister wants to object to what is being said then he should address it to the person by whom it was said and not attribute it to me.
MR SPEAKER: Please direct your attention to that point, Minister Berry. Please proceed.
MR BERRY: There is another point of order.
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