Page 2222 - Week 11 - Tuesday, 31 October 1989

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The figure that has been put forward is 30 and my understanding was that was still the figure in New South Wales, but I take your further advice that it is 20, because essentially in that regard one of the other things that we initially thought would be the case with the legislation is that it would mirror New South Wales and we felt that there were some very valid reasons for doing that.

We are in very close proximity to New South Wales and a lot of things that happen within that state that surrounds us do have an impact upon the Territory and certainly in regard of that fact I do not think we should forget that Queanbeyan is just across the border and in terms of any legislation we have, particularly this one, we certainly would not want to get into the position where this legislation, for example, created a disincentive for business to establish in the territory.

So that is our position and I think we now - and sort of overview in the legislation as it now stands, it is not terribly reflective of the New South Wales Legislation at all.

They have 10 in their designated work group.

A further person who appeared before the committee on 7 June 1989, was Mr Williams from the Master Builders Association. When asked questions, he stated that in Queensland the figure is 30. He then went on to say:

That is fairly recent legislation. I think within the last few months the Queensland Legislation has come in. South Australia has been around for a few years. We have indications of where all the problem areas are and that is why in the Territory we are establishing agreements that just counted the number of people on site and said, "Look, you get more than 20 people on site then you have a formal arrangement for that particular site". And that, in our view, seemed to be a more recent approach than trying to set up this administrative regime.

And I quote from a further person who appeared that day before the Assembly, Mr Winnel, who stated:

The Bill contains a provision for a work force in excess of 10 to be a work force which requires the formation of these formally structured arrangements. The trend in Australia has been with South Australia at the lowest and the Northern Territory, I suppose, the most deregulated, and Queensland at 30 and New South Wales at 20, the trend has been that as experience


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