Page 1563 - Week 08 - Wednesday, 27 September 1989

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explanation as to why it would be located at that particular point. There seem to be other more suitable places for it to be included in the legislation.

Mr Prowse: The government draftsman drafted this. It has been before the house. If you had a problem, why did you not address it when you had time?

Mr Whalan: Can I speak again, Mr Deputy Speaker?

MR DEPUTY SPEAKER: Yes. You have two periods, Minister. You can now have your second period.

MR WHALAN (Minister for Industry, Employment and Education) (4.38): Mr Deputy Speaker, I am rather disappointed in Mr Prowse's reaction to this. He did not stand up to speak which is an abuse of the - - -

Mr Kaine: On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker; this is becoming a travesty of a debate and I would respectfully submit that it is time this nonsense was stopped here and now and we got on with debating the substance of this Bill. They wanted a detailed debate. If they want to debate the detail of the Bill, let us do it. They are not doing that. They are not debating the substance of the Bill at all. It is getting quite out of order.

MR DEPUTY SPEAKER: Minister, you need to speak to clause 3 of the Bill. That is the substantive part of this Bill.

MR WHALAN: Yes, and that is what I am talking to, Mr Deputy Speaker.

MR DEPUTY SPEAKER: Well, would you confine you remarks to it.

MR WHALAN: We sought an explanation from the proposer of the legislation, and the Assembly has been denied an explanation on this particular matter because he has chosen that course of action. Now it is up to him to deny information. I think the whole way in which this legislation is being proposed is to deny this Assembly information and to deny the people of Canberra and the ACT information and an opportunity to discuss and be consulted in relation to it. This abuse is yet a further example of that.

Mr Prowse: Mr Deputy Speaker, I seek leave of the Assembly to make a statement.

MR DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mr Prowse, you do not need leave of the Assembly to make a statement.

MR PROWSE (4.40): I put this point back to the Deputy Chief Minister. This was drafted by the government draftsman. It has been on the floor of the Assembly for a month. Why are you now reacting with this delaying tactic? For goodness' sake, if there is a problem we expect you to


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