Page 1361 - Week 07 - Thursday, 24 August 1989

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Mr Moore: On a point of order, Mr Speaker; perhaps I can clarify the situation from the question I asked on notice. I can refer to the facts because I have them in front of me.

MR SPEAKER: Mr Moore, is this a point of order or a statement?

Mr Moore: It is a clarification.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you for your attempt to do so. Mr Jensen, please proceed.

MR JENSEN: Yes, Mr Speaker. I think, in relation to the question that I raised, it was what was allocated, not what they took. I refer to a document that was provided in answer to a question in this place, and this document says:

No Self Government Party: Craig Duby, ASO5; Carmel Maher, ASO5; plus one by ASO2.

Now, Mr Speaker, whether they took that is irrelevant. What I am suggesting is, and what I said was, that the No Self Government Party was offered and allocated that particular number of staff.

Mr Duby: I rise on a point of order, Mr Speaker. I am not sure whether this is a legitimate answer to a legitimate question or not, but the fact of the matter is - - -

Mr Kaine: We are not in question time.

Mr Duby: Exactly. The fact of the matter is that my party's allocation of staff is three ASO5 members; no more, no less.

MR SPEAKER: Mr Duby, the information that Mr Jensen has to hand was, at one stage, a statement of fact. I dare say the ruling on that is that he did not lie, and therefore I would request that you make an unequivocal withdrawal of your comment that he did, in fact, do so.

Mr Duby: I will withdraw the imputation that Mr Jensen lied. I will stick with my statement that the information he has got is incorrect.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you, Mr Duby.

MR JENSEN: Mr Speaker, I will proceed and I will be brief. I have moved this amendment to the motion to ensure that all members of this Assembly are able to avail themselves of the method of use of consultancies, which is available to the government departments.

Now, Mr Speaker, if we are going to suggest that the use of consultancies is a tax avoidance, I would suggest that the Government should stop using consultancies and so should those people in the other place on the other hill, but a


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