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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 2010 Week 14 Hansard (Wednesday, 8 December 2010) . . Page.. 5970 ..


So Katy Gallagher wants us to believe her now. But she was caught, quite clearly, not telling the truth back then. And then she started talking about this—

Mr Stanhope: I raise a point of order, Madam Assistant Speaker.

MADAM ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Ms Le Couteur): Mr Stanhope.

Mr Seselja: Stop the clocks, please.

MADAM ASSISTANT SPEAKER: Yes, please stop the clock.

Mr Stanhope: Madam Assistant Speaker, it is clearly unparliamentary of Mr Hanson to make those claims of untruthfulness. It is clearly unparliamentary and he should be asked to withdraw.

Mr Seselja: On the point of order, Madam Assistant Speaker, points about people saying things outside of the chamber which are not true are not unparliamentary; it is common practice in this place on all sides and I would ask you to reflect on that in your ruling. In the past, comments around people misleading the Assembly need to be part of a substantive motion. I do not believe that is what Mr Hanson was actually saying.

Mr Hargreaves: On the point of order, Madam Assistant Speaker, The question before you, I believe, is whether or not the comments from Mr Hanson are an imputation against the member. That is really what it comes down to.

MR HANSON: On the point of order, Madam Assistant Speaker—

MADAM ASSISTANT SPEAKER: Yes, but this is the last one.

MR HANSON: I stand by my comments because it is quite clear that the statements that were made were not true. And I do not think there is a point of order.

MADAM ASSISTANT SPEAKER: Okay.

MR HANSON: I stand by it—

MADAM ASSISTANT SPEAKER: Okay.

MR HANSON: If it requires a substantive motion, I will go there.

MADAM ASSISTANT SPEAKER: Mr Hanson, I think it would help the proceedings if you would withdraw those remarks. I am not clear exactly what you said, so I will review the Hansard afterwards. I clearly heard “untrue” and “Ms Gallagher” but exactly what I am not—

MR HANSON: Madam Assistant Speaker, I will not be withdrawing my comments. What I said—I will have to paraphrase it—is that when the—


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