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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 2010 Week 13 Hansard (Thursday, 18 November 2010) . . Page.. 5700 ..

way to capture that information and links with an Australia-wide project to get more detailed information about alcohol consumption. We believe it is not an unreasonable requirement of the licensee to provide that information simply so that we can gather the data we need and as we go forward use that information to help us inform better policy.

Amendment No 10 deletes very detailed specifications for what size the kitchen bench must be in a kitchen in a pub and what must be in the kitchen; for example, a fridge or a dishwasher. Like the government, we will be supporting this amendment. The requirement that food must be provided will remain but other regulatory instruments such as the Food Act more appropriately deal with the standard the kitchen must be. As Mrs Dunne alluded to, this is probably one of those examples where it is a case of a little bit of an overzealous effort in prescribing what is required.

Amendment No 11 deletes the requirement for venues over 300 persons occupancy loading to have free water at the bar and at another place other than the bar. We will not be supporting this amendment. We believe that free availability of water is key to enabling people to drink responsibly. The provision of free water is not onerous compared to the potential benefits. Frankly, once venues that are that large get crowded, on a Friday or a Saturday night particularly, it can be pretty hard to get to the bar. With such large numbers of people trying to move across a crowded room, people may not want to be bothered fighting their way through the crowd to get a glass of water. Having the opportunity to obtain that somewhere else in the bar is a good and sensible harm minimisation measure that we should see people taking advantage of and hopefully avoiding a situation where they are not drinking responsibly.

Amendment No 12 inserts a new example definition that links back to amendments Nos 5 and 6 and we will be supporting that as well.

MRS DUNNE (Ginninderra) (3.26): Mr Assistant Speaker—

MR ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Mr Hargreaves): Mrs Dunne, are you seeking leave to have the question divided?

MRS DUNNE: Can I close the debate or I should I—

MR ASSISTANT SPEAKER: You have an amendment, don’t you?

MRS DUNNE: I will seek your guidance, Mr Assistant Speaker. I have to close the debate. I have to seek leave to have the matter divided and somewhere after amendment No 9 I am going to seek leave to move another amendment. I think I probably need to do that in that order, but if you have a better idea.

MR ASSISTANT SPEAKER: Just hold on for a second, Mrs Dunne. Thank you very much to the Clerk. Mrs Dunne, what you need to do now is move your amendment which adds to the amendment at the end of the list and in doing that you also close the debate.

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