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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1995 Week 11 Hansard (12 December) . . Page.. 2853..


MR SPEAKER: I have ruled that I will examine the Hansard.

Mr Berry: That will not get us far.

MR SPEAKER: We will be here all day otherwise, because all we will end up with is a debate back and forth across this table about who might have said what. Until I can examine the record it is not possible for me to rule.

Mr Berry: May I rise further on the point of order? Mr Speaker, it would be pointless examining the Hansard until Ms Follett has given you the entire speech. At that point, once you have examined what Ms Follett has said, you can make a ruling in relation to standing order 47.

MS FOLLETT: And I will be very brief, Mr Speaker.

Mr Humphries: Mr Speaker, on the point of order: The fact of the matter is that Ms Follett was given two or three minutes for a personal explanation and did not, at that stage, in any way address the standing orders as they are written on our books. Therefore, she should not be allowed to continue.

MR SPEAKER: It seems to me that we are now not debating the question of whether Ms Follett or the Chief Minister was misrepresented. We are now debating whether we are discussing standing order 46 or standing order 47. I have stated, to get right back to the issue, that I will examine the Hansard. That is my ruling.

MS FOLLETT: Mr Speaker, I was under the impression that I was speaking under standing order 47.

MR SPEAKER: I have said that I will examine the Hansard. That is my final ruling on the matter. Resume your seat.

MS FOLLETT: Mr Speaker, I wish to conclude my remarks, very briefly, and to say that, on the question of part-time employment, Mrs Carnell's explanatory memorandum says - - -

MR SPEAKER: Order! I have already ruled that I will examine the Hansard on the issue. Resume your seat, Ms Follett.

Mr Connolly: How can you examine the Hansard if you do not know what Ms Follett wants to say as to how she was misrepresented? This makes a farce of the standing order.

MR SPEAKER: Ms Follett has made her position clear.

MS FOLLETT: As I resume my seat, I will say that the explanatory memorandum on Mrs Carnell's Bill says, "This is because all executive jobs will be full-time".


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