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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1995 Week 10 Hansard (7 December) . . Page.. 2804..

Mr Berry: He is confrontationist.

MR DE DOMENICO: Mr Berry says he is confrontationist. He happens to be from a different faction from that which Mr Berry comes from. This Government, as I said, will send whoever it sees fit to send, and will not ask permission from the Trades and Labour Council, and especially not from the Labor Party.

Government Service - Enterprise Bargaining

MR BERRY: Now that the Government has decided to employ that well-known confrontationist, Mr Houlihan, to advise it on how to do its dirty work in industrial relations, and the Government itself in turn has decided to threaten its employees with lockouts - - -

MR SPEAKER: Mr Berry, I would draw your attention to standing order 117(b), which says:

Questions shall not contain:

(i) statements of fact or names of persons unless they are strictly necessary to render the question intelligible and the facts can be authenticated;

... ... ...

MR BERRY: Indeed, Mr Speaker, and this one is necessary for the course of the debate.

Ms Follett: The Minister mentioned the name.

MR BERRY: The Minister mentioned him long before I did.

MR SPEAKER: Yes, but he did not make certain allegations.

MR BERRY: Mr Speaker, if you are going to be so even-handed I suggest you try that sort of stuff on the Minister as well.

MR SPEAKER: Yes, but he did not make certain allegations, Mr Berry, and that is what I am drawing attention to.

MR BERRY: Now that the Government - - -

Mr Kaine: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I really do not think that you should allow yourself to be intimidated by Mr Berry standing over you as he just did. If he keeps it up I suggest you invite him to have the rest of the day off.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you, Mr Kaine.

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