Page 2125 - Week 07 - Thursday, 29 June 2023

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MADAM SPEAKER: Yes. Members, please! You have asked the question; allow the minister to reply.

MR STEEL: And the issues with the project have been clearly identified by the reviews that we have undertaken and that we have released for the public to see what those issues were. It was around governance. There were also issues that related to COVID-19 and the difficulty during the COVID-19 pandemic period of directorates engaging with the project. Because this was not just an ICT project; it was a people project. It was about change management of trying to translate business processes, many of which were highly customised across 18 different enterprise agreements and 14 different platforms, into one integrated solution.

Mr Hanson interjecting

Mr Cain interjecting

MADAM SPEAKER: Members!

MR STEEL: It is clear through the reviews that it was a very optimistic approach that was taken, and the complexity, size and scale of this challenge was clearly underestimated. That is why, as a result of the reviews, we are now taking a different direction on upgrading the existing systems at far less risk and cost to the territory.

MR CAIN: How much more will it cost the ACT taxpayer to remedy this situation?

MR STEEL: I thank the member for his question. We have clearly made the decision in the budget not to progress with the HRIMS solution, so we are not going to be spending more on that solution. We are not going to throw good money after bad. We are going to undertake an upgrade of the existing system—

Mr Hanson: And how much does that cost?

MR STEEL: That is in the budget. It is clearly outlined in the budget, and I refer the member there: $17.1 million of investment in the first year to undertake the upgrades to HR21 and Chris21; and then we will also be going through procurement to upgrade and deliver a new time-in-attendance system, which is another key component that we need to deliver as well. We will go through the procurement process to deliver that, and we will test the market and see what can be delivered.

MR PARTON: What level of wastage would be the threshold for you to resign as minister? Would it be $100 million? $150 million? What would it be?

MR STEEL: I reject the premise of the question, because our priority is making sure that we improve governance on our ICT projects.

Opposition members interjecting

MADAM SPEAKER: Members! You have asked a question.


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