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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 2013 Week 12 Hansard (24 October) . . Page.. 3834..


MADAM SPEAKER: A supplementary question, Mr Doszpot.

MR DOSZPOT: Minister, are these rule changes another attempt for this government to allow the Labor clubs to sell poker machines they were given for free by the community?

MS BURCH: It is again just sheer hypocrisy from those over there. I have said in the answer to the question from—

Mr Hanson: Madam Speaker, point of order.

MADAM SPEAKER: Mr Hanson on a point of order.

Mr Hanson: Can you just refresh me as to whether "hypocrisy"is parliamentary or not?

MADAM SPEAKER: Generally speaking "hypocrisy"is okay; "hypocrite"is not. I think it is a bit of a moot point, but the general convention is on the magic list here. There has been one occasion, I understand, where "hypocrisy"has been ruled out of order, by Mr Temporary Deputy Speaker Gentleman in 2006. But generally speaking the convention is that in relation to "hypocrite"or "hypocrites"—I actually ruled "hypocritical"out of order in 2009—"hypocrite"is the magic word. I do not think I want to go down that path and limit even more the language used in this place. Ms Burch.

MS BURCH: The short answer is no. I direct those members opposite to this morning's amendments table. I also direct them to a discussion paper that the industry has indeed sought. I know that Brendan Smyth has been in the room when they have asked for a trading scheme. That has been out for community comment. Today I tabled amendments to reduce red tape in partnership with the club sector. Other than that, there has been no change of policy.

MADAM SPEAKER: A supplementary question, Mr Doszpot.

MR DOSZPOT: Minister, how do you apply the concept of conflict of interest in the way in which you administer your gaming and racing ministerial responsibilities?

Mr Gentleman: On a point of order, it does not relate to the original question.

MADAM SPEAKER: I think there has been discussion of conflict of interest already in the question and it is in relation to how Minister Burch conducts herself as the minister. I will allow the question.

MS BURCH: I have no conflict. The clubs are managed and audited. All the accountability sits with the gaming and racing commission and the club board.

Mr Doszpot: Do you have a conflict of interest?

MS BURCH: Well, next time I see you at a club, Steve, I will ask you the same thing.


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