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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 2011 Week 10 Hansard (21 September) . . Page.. 4176..


MR SPEAKER: Mr Hanson, a supplementary.

MR HANSON: Minister, will you continue to advocate for the needle and syringe program at the jail now that nurses have joined the chorus of people who are opposed to a needle and syringe program as put forward by Michael Moore?

MS GALLAGHER: My understanding of the ANF's submission is that they do not support the models put forward as Michael Moore's preferred models but they are prepared to continue to speak with the government about ways to implement one that would meet their needs. I still do not think it will meet the prison guards' needs—

Mr Seselja: It is a pretty strong trifecta—

Mr Hanson interjecting—

MR SPEAKER: Order, members!

MS GALLAGHER: Mr Seselja, this is a little bit complex for you. It is not black and white. I understand your need for things to be either wrong or right—mostly wrong—but within this there is the Michael Moore position. There are you guys on the extreme right saying: "No, no, no, don't do anything ever, ever. Just let people's veins deteriorate. Let blood-borne viruses have the opportunity to spread."

Mr Hanson interjecting—

MS GALLAGHER: That is you. Then there is Michael Moore. Then in the middle there is a whole group of people who want to genuinely engage and try to work with the government to provide a sensible and reasonable response to the issue of blood-borne virus management in a correctional setting.

Opposition members interjecting

MS GALLAGHER: So there a whole lot of people in here—you on the right, you right out there, and Michael Moore right here and then we are in the middle, with a whole range of people, trying to work out an agreed way forward.

Mr Hanson interjecting—

MS GALLAGHER: And that is what governments do. That is why you are in opposition. That is why we are here, trying to actually genuinely deal with the very, very serious issue of blood-borne virus management in a correctional setting.

Mr Hanson interjecting—

MR SPEAKER: Before the supplementary, Mr Hanson, I think that some of your interventions just then were getting very close to being unparliamentary. I would ask you to consider the tenor of your interjections.

Mr Seselja: Just on your ruling, Mr Speaker—


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