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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 2011 Week 6 Hansard (21 June) . . Page.. 2072..


MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: I think Mr Corbell—

MR HANSON: You can call someone a grub and there is not even a request that he withdraw it but—

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mr Corbell! Mr Hanson has the floor.

MR HANSON: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. It has touched a bit of a raw nerve, that one, hasn't it? But I think that—

Mr Corbell: I don't like liars, Mr Hanson.

Mr Smyth: He cannot ignore you. Point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. He must withdraw that.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Thank you, Mr Smyth.

Mr Smyth: He must withdraw the imputation of lying, and you have to call him to order or name him. He cannot ignore you; he cannot ignore the position of the chair.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Sorry, Mr Smyth; I did not hear any—

Mr Smyth: He must withdraw "liar".

Mr Corbell: I did not accuse anyone of lying.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: I actually did not hear the word. I am happy to check the Hansard later and speak to it at a later stage today.

MR HANSON: I think that the worth of anything that Mr Corbell says in this place is so devalued by now that probably calling anybody a liar is indeed a compliment from Mr Corbell, so I will go about my business.

If members choose to look at Committees on Demand or read the transcript, they will find that my recollection of what occurred during the estimates committee is exactly accurate. I invite you to do so. In fact, I might make it the subject of an adjournment speech later—who knows? I note that the MPI, members, is on openness and accountability of government, so there might be an opportunity there where I can bring that forward.

There were some interesting debates that were had during the committee process. One of those was in Mr Corbell's portfolio area in terms of sustainability. It is worth noting that there are a lot of sustainability measures in place. There is the green energy; there is the feed-in tariff. One question I wanted to ask and one thing I wanted to investigate is: what is the whole-of-government cost, the whole-of-budget cost, of all these measures? On an individual basis we will see various ministers coming out and saying things. Mr Corbell says it is a great green initiative; Mr Barr will say it is a great clean energy initiative. They have a difference in language. But what is the cost


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