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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 2008 Week 9 Hansard (21 August) . . Page.. 3462..

MR STANHOPE: I have very serious concerns that the future balance sheet, most particularly the surplus, is at dire risk. We see that in the numbers and the promises that have been made, and we have seen it again just this week—

Mrs Dunne: On a point of order, Mr Speaker, the question is out of order as it asks for an expression of opinion: "Do you have any concerns?"

MR SPEAKER: I think Mrs Dunne has a point.

Mr Stanhope: I ask that all further questions be placed on the notice paper.

Personal explanation

MR HARGREAVES (Brindabella—Minister for Territory and Municipal Services, Minister for Housing, Minister for Multicultural Affairs): I seek leave to make a personal explanation under standing order 46.

MR SPEAKER: The member may proceed.

MR HARGREAVES: Yesterday, when talking about the ANU hot rock facility in a speech on Dr Foskey's motion, Mrs Dunne said she had asked the people at the ANU whether urban services or the minister had visited and they said no. She said then, "So they could go around the world but they could not cross Marcus Clarke Street to see something that works in our own town."Personally, Mr Speaker, it is the HotRot system, not the hot rock system. It is not the Hard Rock Cafe, but it is in there.

In relation to the ANU facility, I would like to put on the record a couple of points which go to counter—

MR SPEAKER: Make sure this is a personal explanation and not a policy statement.

MR HARGREAVES: It is, Mr Speaker. They counter the accusation by Mrs Dunne that I do not know what is happening at the ANU.

MR SPEAKER: I think the accusation was that you had never been there.

MR HARGREAVES: No, Mr Speaker. I was quoting Mrs Dunne and I will do so again. She said, "So they could go around the world but they could not cross Marcus Clarke Street to see something that works in our own town, which is emblematic of everything,"blah, blah, blah.

Firstly, I have spoken to the people at the ANU. Indeed, I gave a bronze award to the ANU Food Co-op at the No Waste Awards in 2006. Also, on 12 June of this year officers from sustainability programs went and saw the program at the ANU. The people who attended then came and gave me a report on it. So I do know about it. I am aware of it.

The TAMS party were: Mr Rob Thorman, director of sustainability programs and projects; Chris Horsey, senior manager of ACT NOWaste; Graham Mannall, manager of ACT NOWaste; David Riddell and Larry O'Loughlin. Mr Speaker, I table the following documents that substantiate the view.

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