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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 2007 Week 10 Hansard (17 October) . . Page.. 3047..


Mrs Dunne: Thank you, Mr Speaker.

MR STANHOPE: Mr Speaker, I withdraw. It was a poor attempt at a joke. I apologise.

Mr Mulcahy: Mr Speaker, it is not to be qualified.

MR STANHOPE: I did not qualify it. I said I withdraw it. It is unequivocal. I then acknowledged it was a poor attempt at a joke. I thought it was quite humorous. I withdraw.

I would actually also like Mr Pratt to withdraw the allegation he has made, both inside this place and outside this place, unequivocally that I ordered this surveillance, which I did not. Mr Pratt has been informed in writing by the Minister for Territory and Municipal Services that I was not involved, that I did not know, I had no pre-knowledge and was in no way involved or associated with the surveillance.

Mr Pratt: Mr Speaker, I raise a point of order. I think the Chief Minister is misleading this place. I have not accused him of—

MR SPEAKER: Just withdraw.

Mr Pratt: I have asked the question, Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Withdraw that, first of all.

Mr Pratt: I have merely asked the question.

MR SPEAKER: You impute that the Chief Minister has misled the house. You cannot do that except by a substantive motion. Just withdraw that and get on with your question.

Mr Pratt: I clarify the point. I have not accused him of ordering surveillance.

MR SPEAKER: That is not a point of order.

Mr Pratt: I am asking the question.

MR SPEAKER: That is not a point of order.

MR STANHOPE: Mr Speaker, the bottom line is that Mr Pratt has been out and about in the public on the media alleging that Mr Hargreaves and I were complicit, were implicated, knew and gave orders that the Department of Territory and Municipal Services undertake surveillance. Mr Pratt has been informed by the Chief Executive of the Department of Territory and Municipal Services, Mr Mike Zissler, that neither the Chief Minister nor the Minister for Territory and Municipal Services were consulted, advised or had any pre-knowledge or information about the surveillance which the department undertook in relation to certain issues that the department felt inclined to investigate through surveillance.


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