Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 2005 Week 7 Hansard (21 June) . . Page.. 2084..
MR HARGREAVES (continuing):
of the Citizens Advice Bureau are very different from the needs of 2XX radio station, as strange as that may seem. They are very different again from some of the cultural groups that are going there. We also need to know that these groups have not hitherto operated in a vacuum. The question, of course, is whether or not what they have at the moment in their premises is appropriate for their needs in the new premises. That is an issue that has been worked through with this particular officer who has been tasked with liaison between the government, QIC and the tenants.
MRS BURKE: My question is to the Minister for Disability, Housing and Community Services. Minister, if there were two types of fit out in relation to the Griffin Centre, why did the government engage the architects to work with the tenants to design a schedule of fit out items, including loose furniture, work stations and other fixtures and fittings? I am happy to table the plan for members.
MR SPEAKER: You will need leave to do that.
MRS BURKE: I seek leave to table the fit out for members.
MR HARGREAVES: I note that I have seen the sheet of paper that Mrs Burke is tabling. What she is in fact tabling is a mud map. She ought to know better than to try and table something that has greater currency than a mud map. Mr Speaker, if you seek a copy of it, you will see that it does not even have the sophistication of an architect's impression. In fact, it was an impression of what could be the case. It was an indicator.
All of them are the same. As I have just finished explaining to Dr Foskey, individual needs of individual tenants differ. It is not a one size fits all. What in fact is the case is that the obligations of the government were to provide for building fit out. There was an indication given that this is what a typical tenancy might look like.
Mrs Burke: But they believed you.
MR HARGREAVES: Mrs Burke can stand up there and be as hysterical as she likes, but all she can offer is a mud map. That just says heaps about Mrs Burke's ability to understand the basic process of building such a significant building as we are providing here.
What we need to understand and what the opposition fails to actually tell you is that the current building is falling down around people's ears. It is a decrepit old building. It is not functional. I know you have been there yourself, Mr Speaker, and it is a shame Mrs Burke has not been there. In fact, everybody would know that these tenants are going to very appropriate and nice premises. There is no recognition on the part of those opposite that in fact what is being provided is a considerably superior facility than that which those people enjoy at the moment. If all that Mrs Burke can do is hang her hat on a mud map, all I can say is all the best to her.