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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1996 Week 3 Hansard (26 March) . . Page.. 654..


Mrs Carnell: Well, sorry; $225 per household. Is that better?

MR BERRY: Here we go; Mrs Carnell says "$225 per household" - another lie. It continued time after time, throughout these press releases which are peppered with lies.

Mr Kaine: Mr Speaker, I do not think it is acceptable behaviour for Mr Berry to continue to say that the Chief Minister is lying. He has repeated it. I think it is time you pulled him up and held him to the standing orders.

MR BERRY: All I have said, Mr Speaker, in relation to this matter, is that these press releases are peppered with lies, and they are.

MR SPEAKER: Whose press releases are they?

MR BERRY: They are press releases from the ACT Government, from the Chief Minister.

MR SPEAKER: They cannot be from just the ACT Government.

Mr De Domenico: Whom are they from, Mr Berry? Whose name is on the top of the page there?

MR SPEAKER: Order! Are they an individual's press releases?

MR BERRY: I do not know who wrote the lies, Mr Speaker, but they are credited to Mrs Carnell.

MR SPEAKER: If we are reflecting on an individual - - -

MR BERRY: We are reflecting on the press releases, Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: If you accuse the Government of lying, then, as we know, it is a bit like referring to the Government as being a pack of hypocrites. I will allow that; but I will not allow you to refer to an individual, even indirectly, as lying.

MR BERRY: Mr Speaker, the community knows the worth of these statements.

MR SPEAKER: Do not reflect on the individual as being a liar.

MR BERRY: Mr Speaker, I withdraw any imputation that Mrs Carnell lied in this place.

Mr Kaine: Mr Speaker, I sought your intervention because the member had already identified the fact that all of those - - -

MR BERRY: I withdraw any imputation.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you.


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